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Pokey Minch ([personal profile] ceasetoexist) wrote in [community profile] mylittlejamjar2014-11-15 11:06 pm

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So hey here's a question for all you nerds with your constant love and friendship crap you keep talking about: do you think someone or something evil can become good. And not just like 'mean' evil or whatever passes for evil here most of the time, I mean like evil evil. World killing evil. That kind of evil. Is there any kind of hope for them if they, I dunno...figure out they were wrong? I mean is redemption something earned or given or what?

I mean is that something that really happens or is it just a story?

And, you know, if someone does change from being evil to....good-ish, do they owe that to others? That kind of chance, I mean? Or sometimes is a monster just a monster?
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[personal profile] kuukai 2014-11-16 07:13 am (UTC)(link)
Sometimes a monster's just a monster.

An' ya live with that. An' do what ya can. An' hopefully, tha's enough.

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[personal profile] aura_spear 2014-11-16 07:17 am (UTC)(link)


[Well that's certainly an interesting question.]

Honestly, it really depends. Sometimes someone or something evil will always be evil, simply because they don't want to change.

I do believe there is hope for redemption, if given the chance. However, if they do not want to change, then there is nothing more anyone else can do for them.

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stormbroken: (you're actin' mighty suspicious...)

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[personal profile] stormbroken 2014-11-16 07:17 am (UTC)(link)
...It can happen.

Problem is, the thing that makes folks that evil is the belief that they're actually not wrong at all.

[Lighthoof, thinking of you, there.]

But it can be earned. They just need t'prove that they really realize what they did wrong, and take steps t'make it better.

Not everyone'll give it, especially the ones hurt most. But given enough time, and enough work... it'll be given.

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nvcr: (Alligators: Can they kill your children?)

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[personal profile] nvcr 2014-11-16 07:22 am (UTC)(link)
To be honest? I never really considered the idea that there could be such a thing as a morality any of us could understand. Mostly, I just did whatever seemed like a good idea at the time.

I mean, sure, people make mistakes. Sometimes you murder an entire region, or whatever. Sometimes you lock the survivors in a bunker and force them to murder each other. It happens to the best of us.

It goes without saying that in that case, you're probably a complete asshole, but I'd say to stop focusing so much on something so insignificant as the past. There's always the now, and hey, maybe you can never be good, maybe the idea of "good" doesn't even exist. It helps to focus less on the person you were not so long ago and just try to decide for yourself what you want to be.
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[personal profile] theytookmypants 2014-11-16 07:45 am (UTC)(link)
It's possible. But it's not an over night thing.

[He pauses for a moment.]

It's hard when you have friends or family that you see the good, or the possibility for it to be there, and they either don't want to change, or don't think they can. A person can feel they've fallen too far beyond redemption and the effort to pull themselves back out can seem daunting and something they don't think is possible. So they believe their own credo's and manifesto's.

I don't think that's a reason to give up on them though. Maybe I'm just easily blinded by the potential though, or stupidly loyal. One of the two. I do...however believe it's possible...but it's the hard mode end to any story traveling that path, I think.

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[personal profile] kingofthetvworld 2014-11-16 02:40 pm (UTC)(link)
[Oh, ow, his heart.]

It's totally pawsible, but it's...hard to explain. So many things can happen and everyone is soooo different. I don't think there's one real explanation, I just know it happens.

...Do you need another hug?
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[ Somewhere, not visible on the scrolls (probably in their closet), Kyouko pulls Teddie into a tight bearhug.

She's learning. It helps when you're both soft and cuddly. ]

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...Mr. Pokey?

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[personal profile] soulofblue 2014-11-16 07:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I think they owe it to others to try.

But some people will never accept that chance. You have to accept that too.

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what do you think

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[personal profile] tookalevelinbadass 2014-11-17 01:45 am (UTC)(link)
[This is the kind of question Pippin rarely contemplates and he sits quietly rubbing the end of his snout for a good five minutes before he comes up with anything to say.]

I have heard many stories about good becoming evil but not so many about evil becoming good and really meaning it. But I also hear in those stories that a great lot of evil started out with good intentions and it's nice to think that they might be saved in the very end. I think it would take someone very special to save them though.

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[personal profile] misplacedxsheath 2014-11-17 05:32 am (UTC)(link)
I'll tell you about redemption when I figure out for myself if it's possible to atone for that level of destruction.

But I've found people are remarkably willing to forgive past misdeeds over the intent to change, even if you've yet to make up for what you've done.

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[personal profile] tsunpony 2014-11-17 06:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Pokey...

You're not seriously thinking of backsliding are you? Just because someone you know is here?

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fireinthebed: By colored_earth (Truly serious for once)

[personal profile] fireinthebed 2014-11-18 07:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Hell no, evil is always evil.

If it weren't and someone was fuckin' crazy enough to give motherfuckin' Sephiroth a second chance, than you better believe we'd all be fuckin' dead by now.

Evil is evil, pure and simple.

[Pot calling kettle, Reno.]

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