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mylittlejamjar2014-08-11 12:05 am
passing_thru_rider) wrote in mylittlejamjar2014-08-11 12:05 am
3rd Ride [Text - Locked from Pollo]
It seems that everyone wants to play hush-hush over all of this, but this is a double-edged blade. Let me tell you a story:
On two worlds, the World of Super Sentai and the World of Kamen Rider, the forces of evil of those worlds plotted to destroy the heroes of those worlds and take over. Two heroes, one of each world, learned of those plans and decided they would save the day by taking over the groups and doing the job for them. They wouldn't kill the heroes, just send them away until the time was right then defeat them all.
But, there was a flaw in this plan - they wouldn't tell a soul of it. They hoped their friends and allies would realize something was up and figure it out. They had to keep up appearances.
This nearly proved to be their undoing. One of those friends was hurt by it. How dare they use them like this without telling them why? So, he nearly brought about the plan in a fit of rage. In the end, the newest heroes of those worlds were able to stop the friend from doing anything he'd regret, but he was hurt by the lies and deceit.
He's probably over it by now, but with him, it's impossible to tell.
I'd think twice about willingly trying to keep a secret this dangerous. Something needs to be done, but advocating secrecy that angers another is not the way to go.
Oh, and if you don't believe my story, ask Captain Marvelous if you see him around sometime.
On two worlds, the World of Super Sentai and the World of Kamen Rider, the forces of evil of those worlds plotted to destroy the heroes of those worlds and take over. Two heroes, one of each world, learned of those plans and decided they would save the day by taking over the groups and doing the job for them. They wouldn't kill the heroes, just send them away until the time was right then defeat them all.
But, there was a flaw in this plan - they wouldn't tell a soul of it. They hoped their friends and allies would realize something was up and figure it out. They had to keep up appearances.
This nearly proved to be their undoing. One of those friends was hurt by it. How dare they use them like this without telling them why? So, he nearly brought about the plan in a fit of rage. In the end, the newest heroes of those worlds were able to stop the friend from doing anything he'd regret, but he was hurt by the lies and deceit.
He's probably over it by now, but with him, it's impossible to tell.
I'd think twice about willingly trying to keep a secret this dangerous. Something needs to be done, but advocating secrecy that angers another is not the way to go.
Oh, and if you don't believe my story, ask Captain Marvelous if you see him around sometime.
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On a world of ponies and magic, there once lived two ponies. They hadn't always been ponies, mind. Spot of bother with the local Goddess of Death snatching birds and beazels from the universe over. But they were ponies in Equestria, and that wasn't fine, but what's a chap to do apart from totter about on all fours and carry on?
One of these ponies had been a robot, something of a nasty blighter, at that. Murder, torture, villainy of the highest degree! Or the lowest... how does one rank villainy? In any case, tinkering about with the old brain box seemed to set the fiend straight. Everything was oojah-cum-spiff once he arrived in Equestria what with being organic and chummy with everypony. He wasn't a robot anymore, so why should that evil bit of him still be lurking about in the works? He'd half forgotten the fellow, anyway.
Well, matters went springing along like gazelles leaping across the plains for a bit. Sunny stuff, you know? Or as sunny as one gets when all the nonsense with Pale Ponies and whatnot turned up. And then came the Fog and the Shadows. One might take note the dramatic capitalization of these words. A fellow narrating a proper tale of woe does not use them lightly!
Onto the Shadows, though. Our villain-turned-hero met his own and he was awfully surprised to find it was that fiend of old: the murderous robot side of him. Well, I'm sure the cove gave him a proper what-for, but he was left in rather grave straits after all was said and done. In the grave, really. The Shadow wasn't keen on leaving it at just that, though. Why take out one when you've got the town left over?
He found one of our hero's chums. A gent who hadn't the foggiest idea what was going on. Fog does tend to cloud the vision! They had a bit of back and forth, as you do when sorting out some devil wearing your friend's face, and then, well, villains shall be themselves. The fiend has a taste for torture, so he decided to chuck the gent about, grind the bones in his wings to paste, and take a scythe to his chest. It was really very unpleasant, you might imagine.
Both our hero and his chum came back to life a few days later, wonder of wonders! But they both more-or-less remembered how they'd died. It was really very awful and our hero thought about chucking himself to the wolves because of what his Shadow had done. It took rather a lot of convincing to have him stay so that the others could help him.
How might you imagine our hero would react if he heard that villain was coming back again and might hurt his friends? They're working awfully hard to fix him so that that part of him is pulled out completely. If he runs off to protect everypony, though, that might put a bit of a damper on things, not to mention there not being any sorts of checks for him.
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Nonetheless, hiding this is going to do nothing but hurt them in the long run. Something needs to give. I don't have all the answers, though.
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Um sir, if telling him is bad, and not telling him is bad too, what do you suggest we do?
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In the end, it's your call. Just be careful of the consequences.
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[Those reels about his original self's future are coming back to bite him now...]
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[Or, at least that's what he assumes.]
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I have no idea what this Pollo crap is about, but don't act all high and mighty because you've been burned before.
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Tell me, how would you solve this?
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Problem #2: Don't assume you'll have a clear head infiltrating an enemy organization. If you don't have some contact on the outside to keep you on track, you could be manipulated from the inside just as easily as you intend to manipulate.
Solution: If you can get that deep within enemy lines, don't actually stay there. Make it a pre-emptive strike.
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Besides, there is always a legitimate danger in telling the pony outright without a plan in place.
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I don't know the situation, but I trust friends. Even if they have to act behind my back or use me, if they've earned that trust I'm gonna give it.
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Look, I don't know if Twilight realizes it yet, but it might be a moot point whether or not we tell Pollo. Its not Pollo we're worried about, after all, in terms of causing the danger.
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[She figures if anyone would know...]
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We can't save one without suppressing the other for good. I don't like it at all, but we can't just wait for Mechakara to fully re-emerge either.
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Not trying to play Nightmare's Advocate here, but... well, the more I hear about this, the more I think of someone from my world. And how a couple of ponies with a misguided idea of what was "right" committed an utter atrocity in the name of "protecting Equestria".
I just want to make sure that this is really as good a choice as all of you think.
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[He stops. She knows. Of course she knows, she was one of the ones who had hunted him.]
I didn't ask. I know I didn't, because I was so convinced. But the ponies that came to help me, they knew that was what they had to do, so that I didn't hurt myself or others again. Because they knew that if I felt I was able to ask for help, I would have.
Its...a little like that with Pollo. Yeah he doesn't think we're all fake hallucinations, but he's practically a slave to his own fear of Mechakara. Because Mechakara is capable of subsuming his personality and he doesn't always realize it. And he might not until its too late to save him, just like in Kon Ran. And he's scared that if he acknowledges it, it will give Mechakara an opening and we'll be his enemies.
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"Clearly, that pony on the floor is not Nightmare Moon. However, just as clearly, that monster waits inside her for another chance to get out. It's my job, my whole life, to protect Equestria from that. It's my job to protect Equestria from a lot of things."
[It's not really a crisis of faith that Flare is having - she firmly believes Lighthoof was wrong in preemptive 'protection' now - but she's still questioning how wrong he actually was. How many more ponies think this is the best way?]
I won't stop you. But I can't say I'm fully on board with the idea.
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But yes, I do quite agree - if you were in bed with someone for that purpose, strike while they're naked, to put it bluntly. We've done it before.
...metaphorically speaking.
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[Being in the Crystal Empire has not been good for Flare's PG-13 rating.]
I get the idea, though. If you're sleeping with the enemy, you're right next to them at their most vulnerable. Opportunism may not be very just, but you already threw out your morals by getting that close to something you oppose to begin with.
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Gods, I hate weighing evils.
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